Eminem appeared on the inaugural episode of hip hop icon Rick Rubin’s new ‘Broken Record’ podcast with acclaimed author Malcolm Gladwell to discuss his new single, “Walk on Water.”

Rubin, who served as the song’s producer and Gladwell both dished on Em’s feelings about the current state of hip hop, the emergence of mumble rap and how it inspired the new track.
Gladwell explained, “They’d just been talking about the rise of mumble rap and there was something about that line, ‘I walk on water, but only when it freezes,’ that touched a nerve.”
Adding a little more context, Rubin explained, “For him, it’s a little bit of culture shock because there’s a new wave…
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